Essendon Bomber, Marty Gleeson | Injury, Culture, Setbacks and Mindset

Joel Kleber: 0:00

So welcome to the first edition of the authentic convos podcast with Joel Kleber and my very first guest is Martin Gleason who is professional athlete in the sport of AFL if you're watching it so Australia for this embalmers, which is a great time and actually to my support, and Martin so thanks for doing this. Where is it all just a little bit of a background you actually do me a favor because we are related. So yep, yeah, helping me out which is great. So appreciate on the first one. So maybe you want to give us a bit of an introduction about yourself just the general general rancher where you're from, and how you got to where you are now? Yeah, so from Danny, where you spent the second half your childhood The only one will cry. Parents mum and dad john and clay have a dairy farm there. And up to about six years old I had a potato farm as well so I don't really mean the spuds too much but all of us kids I think for our 21st birthday we got a spa bag I don't know if you might have seen it Gleason said Gleason Gleason brothers. potato sack which is the people listening or people that have seen it might not seem like much but we all love it. Everyone in the family their massive fan just give context it's like a massive potatoes location sack. The Gleason is a Gleason brothers Gleason brothers on and it's got Nana, dad's mom and dad's phone number on it so 456583

Marty Gleeson: 1:14

massive, massive it's probably about odd. I made a major footy jumper the final one Yeah, pretty much is probably a little bit bigger. Yeah. Oh, Hashem sack so that's pretty cool. You got that any time at the moment? Yeah, that's happening. Mel morale even then everyone else in the family has got one as well. So my two brothers sister named Mom, dad got one as well. So pretty cool. And then yeah, so they got the cows now they got milk about 300 cows. Daniel second it was working with dad at the moment. So they're they're getting that down. They're just doing harvesting at the moment. They've just finished solid had a good season and get stuck in the hay soon. So your man your old man, john is still very active in the business and is still very active today. These days? Yeah, turn 70 marks and he's gone along very well. He looks like he's 50 john. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think you ever ever stopped working. So I'm certainly you know how to say yeah, nice going well, and yeah, now they're going right down there. Then my other brother Jonathan, he's got a his own farm just around the corner and terone he's out there with his wife, newly wife corny, so they're going out there and then say his hot wife which you have Yeah, that's what he says. Yeah, that's right. He said that nice feature a few times. And then sister Nicole, she is living up in carisbrook with her partner with their got a bit of a farm out there. And she also nursing dailymail and in doing a few other little things,

Joel Kleber: 2:33

so how many how many years you've been up in Melbourne? So you came up obviously you got drafted what you were seven eight. Yeah, I didn't just turn that in. I wasn't going to show that fight. I was gonna have the photo here. The local patient Yeah, but um, you come alongside and how old are you now? You're 24 I should know that myself. Yeah. So you've been happy for now seven years so how are you find everything overall being up from from horrible from from being the farm kid obviously now you in the cities you urbanized in a way?

Marty Gleeson: 2:58

Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, I am. I don't mind I I think I do enjoy getting home and I love getting home and I think whenever it is one day, I'll probably move out of Melbourne hopefully. But I do enjoy. I've got a lot of schoolmates up here, just right now I could pretty close with Fairfield school nights in which I live with one and my partner, Amelia. And then I've got four or five other mates that we all live within. So we're in Flemington and other guys live in Escobar, North Melbourne has about five or six of us that live within two suburbs.

Joel Kleber: 3:27

So that's generally how it works. A lot of country kids when they come up to Melbourne, I do sort of stay in that same suburb. I had the same experience with mines with mine as well. You know, we have it all in that same pocket, right?

Marty Gleeson: 3:35

Yeah, exactly. Right, which is great. So we catch our call away. And so if you're on the way here, I'm gonna go for dinner again tonight. And I think that makes it a lot easier. as well. So yeah, now I do enjoy the city. But I think one day I'll definitely Yeah,

Joel Kleber: 3:46

what was your first couple years? Because you'd have that share house out in Oak Park? Yeah, that's right. Whenever they once or twice. Yeah, my place would really really clean up or that way.

Marty Gleeson: 3:55

Yeah. Now it wasn't too bad. It was a bit of an experience. Yeah, all of us young boys living together in art Park out there. We lived in this old massive house, which has been able to say a bit harder to keep clean but now it was a great experience also to we're all country boy. So we all got along pretty well. Yeah, we just knew we had what we had to do and get stuck into it. So now it's great experience. Cool. So

Joel Kleber: 4:16

you've been at ESA now for was it nearly seven years? Yeah. Go into it. Yes. I want to touch on a few things now. So with this with this podcast, so it's a bit awkward. You know what, like, we obviously have a lot of questions that obviously we get into it's a bit different. But um, there's a couple things I wanted to talk about, which I think would be interesting to people to know, which is not probably talked about as much so let's talk about probably this. We obviously hear about social media now. Obviously with athletes that sort of started coming out a bit. Like you see some people like the hitters like Dangerfield and stuff you'll hear talking about it a lot more now. Yeah, I just want to touch a bit on that. About how do you how do you deal with social media as a professional athlete like what what he actually told at the club, but you actually even given any education from the club. You personally How do you deal with it or how do you manage it?

Marty Gleeson: 4:55

Yeah, I guess social media can be used in a great way I think. What are you handles First off, yeah handles on I don't even know I think on Instagram just Maryann's for Gleason, I think and then Twitter. I couldn't tell ya. In fact, I wanted I always got Facebook I've I'm not friends with many people on Facebook, I saw a drawing. That's out of all the three. I try and keep that pretty close to friends and family. So not friendly to many people on that. But

Joel Kleber: 5:17

insert tweet is the one Yeah,

Marty Gleeson: 5:18

yeah, so I'm not too active on him. I sort of use them for myself. I love American sports. I love all sports. I I follow a lot of sporting pages on them. And it's great for me to keep up to date with all that then also, Instagram and not so much Twitter, but yeah, Instagram, cashing out seeing what all your school friends are up to. And pretty much every we're going to be family. So you can see whatever is going on there on both sides. So you can sort of keep up with everyone on that, which is great. So yeah, in regards to what we post and all that kind of things from the club, I think they pretty much say it's about just be you be who you are. And obviously, don't be posting anything to celiac or anything on there. But not many guys do that stuff anyway. So yeah, you must

Joel Kleber: 6:00

education I like so when you come in, like obviously, it's what has changed a lot now in the last seven years. But when you came in here as an 18 year old, obviously, you might have been might have been mentioned somewhere. But was there any sort of like, education on it from internal from an external body or anything like that?

Marty Gleeson: 6:12

Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, when you first come in you, you go through your first year, the AI file and this sort of clubs run out program for you, and you touch on over various range of things. In sort of social media is a little bit one of them. So you just touch on that. And they go with ways how you can make yourself more private, whatever you want to do. And then from there, how to sort of deal with stuff if you've made any how, who to go talk to or whatever it is, so yeah, they do. And then we, we often have ongoing conversations throughout the year. Not all the time, but like every couple of times a year just

Joel Kleber: 6:43

because we have a refreshing,

Marty Gleeson: 6:44

refreshing Yeah, and sort of just how guys are coping or by there's obviously a lot of negativity out there sometimes which comes with it. But I think for us is just understanding who's doing that and not to get too caught up or worried about that. Because the people who are writing a lot of them are very passionate and like to express their views but sometimes they're

Joel Kleber: 7:04

Yeah, I want to touch on that now cuz that's leads really well into the next one was like how do you how do you deal with the online sort of stuff that's out there?

Marty Gleeson: 7:11

Well, I'm not too bad. I sort of don't. For myself, I don't look at too much of it. To be honest, I think I think for people to say just to completely ignore it, and don't look at it pretty naive. I think it's pretty hard today society and what we do, and because it can be used so greatly that you don't want to just remove yourself from it if you can, and that's what you want to do. Great. That's awesome. But for a lot of guys, it's hard to do that. So I think it's just about understanding and who the people are, who are sometimes throwing out there, these not great comments, whatever it is and understanding that it's not really personal attack on you. It's just they're frustrated and whatever it is. So if you do say it's just like almost you can use use a bit of comedy and have a bit of a laugh at it, whatever. And

Joel Kleber: 7:51

that's I was gonna say like, do you do something is gonna say have you ever laugh at us and call me like this? You could even like get the best troll comment of the week and post it up around the locker room and say roll that out or

Marty Gleeson: 8:00

that's definitely he said that over in the states I often read out some of the tweets and whatever they

Joel Kleber: 8:06

look at mean tweets or something like that. Exactly right. Which is pretty funny sometimes you do find James actually that'd be quite funny but um yeah, we could have I definitely could. But yeah, like something like because it's just gonna say like it would take a lot of your time The reason why I say it's because obviously go for the club so I do look at comments and stuff and me personally when I see something mentioned about you know, whatever gets me buddy angry something and how that person is actually

Marty Gleeson: 8:27

Yeah, me. Well, I guess myself I don't really no one really comments on my staff or anything like that. I think the main month Come on, sort of. It's unlikely that a club, wherever and I try I don't really read any of them to be honest. Yeah, so I'm not too I know there's a little bit of stuff on ocean sometimes you family members or yourself or whoever it is, they might say something every now and then. And for me it just doesn't bother me. Like obviously, sometimes when you're not going great. That's when it's more prevalent and you just like you don't have time to worry about it to be honest. You worry about yourself you are making your body right you are making form so if you try to put your energy into that you're probably putting in the wrong spot.

Joel Kleber: 9:01

Yeah, so you buy views you said as you deal with the buy you keep a pretty private network with various stuff and you want to avoid looking at that main sort of way. That's where that comment sort of comes definitely Yeah, just

Marty Gleeson: 9:09

try not to worry about it. It's no point really for myself. Just worry about worry on what I can worry on and yeah, go from there.

Joel Kleber: 9:15

I just have interesting people try and dm you or anything like that before.

Marty Gleeson: 9:18

They do a few I think on fighting negativity. Yeah, on. I've had a few on Instagram. But I don't want it to him straightaway. Because if you're not

Joel Kleber: 9:26

Yeah, it goes into the other

Marty Gleeson: 9:28

ear. How it works. Yeah. So I don't really see some of them sometimes I don't really check that at all. And then calf on Twitter and Strava I blocked a few people on Twitter that sometimes can be Yes, yes. Because you have a quick look at and you understand sometimes there might be like an error obviously a fake profiling, who knows who already saw this block and don't worry about and then you're also

Joel Kleber: 9:47

that's the best way to gauge but you get constant like we sort of mentioned before, but you get constant like online, like advice internally about dealing with that sort of stuff.

Marty Gleeson: 9:54

Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, the guy I think the upstairs guys, the media team, they they're constantly monitoring you And having looked into that kind of stuff, you haven't got any questions. They're lovely people can go talk to them. And they often say that but yeah, like not too much. We we talked a little bit but and how to deal with it. And we've had a few chats about it last year, and I think because it's probably become more prevalent over the last 18 months. Yeah. But yeah, not too much. I think you you can chat about with your classmates. And then yeah, go from there. If you need any more help.

Joel Kleber: 10:24

Yeah. So if you are doing those comments, I don't look at him. So I was gonna say, the other one I was gonna bring up is a 40 to 40 forums right. Now, just add my curiosity. People actually check on those, you know, it's 5040 forums I'm talking about. Yeah, that one actually looks at I yeah,

Marty Gleeson: 10:38

I've heard of them. But I couldn't tell you where it is. I wouldn't know where to look or anything like that. So now, I couldn't tell you anything about them.

Joel Kleber: 10:44

That's good to hear. Because there's a couple of obviously ones I won't name the forums at the end, but they can be pretty, pretty full on a lot of intense fan discussion on there. Now. I can imagine Yeah, it's quite funny. But you're a as you said, so out of those platforms, obviously. Why as a young person, do you like let's say Instagram? So you got you got three? You got Instagram and Facebook and Twitter? Yeah. So what how do you view each platform? So what do you view Facebook for

Marty Gleeson: 11:06

Facebook? That's just for me to sort of that's a tight network. I'm not friends. I'm still friends with a few people but not heaps that just mainly from school friends, family. Pretty friends from wherever the people in middle and the way that I want to stay in contact with so that's great

Joel Kleber: 11:19

as the main net and use that and then obviously FB messenger as well. Yeah, use a lot. Exactly. Right. Yeah.

Marty Gleeson: 11:24

And it's good to keep in contact a lot of events now on Facebook and that kind of stuff. So I use that for mainly just for that. It's more of a family friends. They work for you. Yeah, exactly. Right. Yeah. I don't often get a few friend requests wherever but I try not to Yeah, except to me. People don't know or sort of too close friends. Because otherwise, yeah, it just becomes to sort of show

Joel Kleber: 11:42

Yeah. What do you like weddings?

Marty Gleeson: 11:44

Yeah, Instagram is like looking at photos and all that kind of stuff. Like I follow a few wild photos sort of pages and all that kind of stuff. So I'll give you an insight where to travel and then lots of sport ones. Yeah, first of all, that's all that sort of stuff. All their minds all the NBA. Basketball ones, the golf ones I follow. I follow a lot of golf pages. So try and learn a few new tricks off there are a good golfer. They've actually done a pretty Haiti which handicap I've just under 12 has been 11 at the moment, so but you get that Daniel yeah, hopefully get the single figure soon. But yeah,

Joel Kleber: 12:13

do you play regularly? Oh,

Marty Gleeson: 12:15

yeah. Throughout the years tough. Probably varies by buddy four or five times in a month and then I might play for three months. So it does vary, obviously, depending on how the body's feeling

Joel Kleber: 12:25

you're going to be driving it how far can you draw it?

Marty Gleeson: 12:27

I swing that hard. So every now and then I got I might go straight. Normally I go left to right or anywhere in between. So now that I you can hit it. Yeah, I don't know how far I can

Joel Kleber: 12:37

say we talked followers on Instagram. Then if you follow a few pages, well, what do you recommend? What's the top ones? Let's say for travel.

Marty Gleeson: 12:43

What's a good one for travel? Ah, Gigi put me right in this fight here now. Okay.

Joel Kleber: 12:47

I have that wasn't on my list. So you would have seen Yeah, not golf or whatever. The Golf ones.

Marty Gleeson: 12:51

Yeah, follow 50. I just follow the PGA Tour. School said I want to follow Mark lation and other x ones. See what he's up to. And then there's a few other just golf people who perhaps matures and how to chip parts when there is one called stability and distance hurricanes go on to follow and then there's a few other ones in there as well. But the possible ones Yeah, house. Oh, and I like fine. Shatner fall. That's a great one. Yeah, no, I have another one that Shaq and Barkley I can't figure out. Let's say it's a one off. I think they're pretty funny. I carry on a Fabian. It's funny thing. Shaq Shaq into the Charles Barkley. Yeah, that's good.

Joel Kleber: 13:31

That's where I'm on Twitter.

Marty Gleeson: 13:32

Twitter. Twitter's morphia Morpheus sports Yeah, follow all American sports and they don't love NFL but for a few NFL ones as well. Bass obviously golf cricket

Joel Kleber: 13:42

well how do you be Twitter's a platform that you feel which is more something for us to follow you someone you like if like if a famous personal brand or hell yeah Twitter is using

Marty Gleeson: 13:50

it pretty much just to see what people are up to. Yeah, I got all the basketball ones for our basketballs that kind of stuff see what they're up to more than US thing for you right

Joel Kleber: 13:57

sports news

Marty Gleeson: 13:58

sort of Eddie's Eddie's and I feel like all the night nine news all the week emergency all their moms on there as well so

Joel Kleber: 14:03

it's more of a news platform you

Marty Gleeson: 14:04

guys pretty much this news. Yep. I don't tweet or anything really ever. Just Yeah. All news news for me.

Joel Kleber: 14:09

Yeah, so So Facebook for more family and friends and events messenger you obviously have Instagram, which is more for content, like you're scrolling through content and stuff like some tips and hints and stuff with your girlfriend. Yeah. And Twitter is more for your as fast with news and events and sports. Yeah,

Marty Gleeson: 14:23

absolutely. Yeah, tweet. No. Now I every now and then I might check one out but very rarely.

Joel Kleber: 14:28

Alright, so don't add him He won't he won't say. All right. So now I want to talk about personal branding and athletes. Right? So you are a personal brand. Yep. Do you take much awareness that you are a personal brand like obviously you see some plays Australia's probably not big on the personal brands and art supplies with the Americas where the personal branding sort of things right? Yeah, absolutely. So do you realize well, first of all that you do have a personal brand and how do you Yeah,

Marty Gleeson: 14:53

I do think that some Yeah, you sort of work on the club's will always touch on who you manage. I don't touch too. Just to be who you are. And I think for me, I just try and be who I am. I'm from down the country, so I don't try and yeah, I try and put items. I might try and play that up a little bit. Yeah. So yeah, exactly right now I just try to be myself. I think a lot of people just like authentic people. And I think a lot of people can see straight through people. That's

Joel Kleber: 15:19

why the authentic combos pod. You mentioned that yeah.

Marty Gleeson: 15:23

Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Now, I think just spaced out, because I think a lot of people he cites I just want real people. They want to know what they're about who they are. And yeah, I think so What

Joel Kleber: 15:32

opportunities can't be with that. So let's say right, so how does that work? So that's quite curious. So you got a manager, right? Yep. And they say I want they go, we need an athlete to represent this. And it's like, how does that how does it all work? From a branding side with yourself?

Marty Gleeson: 15:44

Yeah, why don't do too much of that sort of stuff. To be honest, I'm sort of just a back pocket player. That kind of stuff. So I guess we're more of the, the the midfielders and the form of goals and guild rewards. So we need

Joel Kleber: 15:57

some brands for the back pocket play. Don't wanna do that

Marty Gleeson: 15:59

now. So yeah, I think for me, I don't see too much of that, which doesn't require me, that's just who I am. And just go about my business that way. But for sort of the more senior more profile players, yeah, that's something that they'd work on a lot more, I guess.

Joel Kleber: 16:12

But that's about as you said, you do get various mention of it, you are reminded that you are personal brand, which obviously really got you online behave and all that sort of stuff.

Marty Gleeson: 16:18

Yeah, exactly. Right. That's why I probably don't post the heap on Instagram or Twitter or that kind of stuff. I sort of, not who I am. I enjoy posting a few things here and there. I don't post about 40 or any of that kind of stuff. I just sort of price

Joel Kleber: 16:31

action training shots of yourself.

Marty Gleeson: 16:33

Not to mean, fine to me there. Yeah. So I might do a couple here and there. But now.

Joel Kleber: 16:37

Okay. Now, I want to shift across the culture now. Because obviously, you're in professional sporting environment. Obviously, culture is always a word that's bandied about. Yeah. But what is actually culture mean, obviously in work environments and stuff as well. So what would you What do you think? Are your obviously cultures use a lot? So you're at your club at the moment like, What? What do you actually does the culture mean of a Sporting Club? Yeah. And what is actually a good culture? And how do you work on achieving a culture?

Marty Gleeson: 17:02

Yeah, I guess for us, it's just about being in a safe environment to be who you are. We got 44 guys on lease now the 50 staff in the footy department then guys upstairs as well. So for us as a whole club, it's just about being safe being who you are, and being proud of who you are. I

Joel Kleber: 17:17

think when you say being safe, that's interesting. So yeah, so why bother? Why that word safe? Like what I mean by that, is that just made everyone secure with each other, or

Marty Gleeson: 17:25

I think it's just no judgment. Yes. Just not being judgmental of other people their story of where they've come from what they're doing. So it's about being accepting and understanding of who everyone is. And everyone's different. That's what makes footy clubs, workplaces. Great that everyone's different if everyone's Sam pretty boring, ply. So yeah, it's about being nice. In a meeting someone doesn't know an answer. It's not not saying, like laughing or anything like that. It's about Yeah, that's fine. How can we help you? What are we going to do to help you get better and all that kind of stuff? So yeah, I think when I say safe, it's just about being accepting and understanding of people and helping them weekend

Joel Kleber: 17:59

because in your environment, you have a lot of you have a lot more feedback than a normal workplace, right, obviously, with your coaches and that sort of stuff. So you've got that constant dialogue back and forth and lots of stuff but as a group, how you build your obviously, you got your game staff, you do your training together, but is there much sorry, outside of work? Are there other activities that are break up the week deliberately? That's not maybe. Yeah, the training related? Oh,

Marty Gleeson: 18:17

yeah. Now we definitely try and catch up a bit away from the club, whether that's going for Tina, when the time's right, trying to be together or catching up for lunches. So I think the big thing of just about building I talked about before them genuine relationships with each other. I think that's the big thing. You're not going to be best nice with everyone. At least that's the way it is. You're not gonna have a 4040 is nice, but you can be nice and get along with everyone. be genuine for everyone. And I think in saying that you're gonna be best match with me in the club. We're very lucky at that club. We everyone gets along really well. We're pretty young. So young boys, I'm sort of getting a bit older now. But all the young boys feeling Yeah, they drive a lot of the energy and excitement which is great. So obviously, we just started preseason recently, and it's um, it's been a great started runs off and about carrying on and we're working hard. That's cool.

Joel Kleber: 19:01

Now we're going to shift sidestep now to one of the questions I had on the list, which is about an agent. Now a lot of people obviously, would know American agents probably a lot more because there's a lot more out there and stuff. But in Australia, obviously, you have a player agent or representative chemo you just tell people what actually an agent does for for you. Yep. And do we actually even need one?

Marty Gleeson: 19:19

Yeah, you do need one. Yeah, I think the big thing that a pie man is great for obviously, when it comes time and negotiate a contract or whatever, that's sort of, I guess one of their main roles there to be there and to help you and go through that and do that. I think, obviously, if you negotiate with a club, we've pretty hard. Yeah, that kind of stuff. So I sort of whenever it's come to our mind, sort of just leave all that to my manager, I say you do whatever you think and go with what he thinks cuz I trust him. So he does all that and then it's obviously great when you first start moose mouth, for example. You don't you don't know who someone you can go to if you want to buy a house house and all that kind of stuff and mortgage broker, you might need an account and all that kind of stuff. So you got to find a manager you can trust and then from there, they can help you put in contact with the world. Good people and, and help you out with a lot of different things. And it's also great to have someone away from the free club, you can go talk to about 40 about life and they can help you out. So that's always good as well.

Joel Kleber: 20:10

So how did you pick your agent? Because obviously you would at the start, like you would have had playing when you play was enough, but was bitten off better at back in the day? Greater Western rebels, whatever. Yep. How did you pick your age? And like, how many do you have to pick from or had? What

Marty Gleeson: 20:22

was the process? Like? Well, yeah, going through it. So when I was at this one, I thought rebels at the time, the regional manager, he sorta he gets all the letters from the manager. So he doesn't give them to you until probably about August, September, which I think is great, because that

Joel Kleber: 20:35

just because it doesn't get your hopes to focus on more on what you're doing.

Marty Gleeson: 20:40

Yeah. And you got a lot of people in us over that stage as well. So you don't spend all your time catch on with managers. What about that kind of stuff when you're sort of worrying about trying to worry about us while you studies, all that kind of stuff? Are you worrying about paying underwriting fee as well, so you probably don't need to be concentrating on that dance. And then I think it's the school holidays might be when I test my memory, my memory, he bets around September, he eats each day and goes here's all the wines he has a bit of a sphere with you and experiences he's had with eight H ones. And then he recommends his Wi Fi. He said choose three, have a chat to them and then go from there. So we done that. And the manager I ended up going with he was actually went to the school I went to a nice while. So I had met him before in I go along. He's country father as well. So

Joel Kleber: 21:21

made it pretty easy for me. That's good. And obviously your mom and dad were involved in the process.

Marty Gleeson: 21:24

Yeah, they met him. Yeah, middle one where I got a bit of a free feed here and there.

Joel Kleber: 21:30

That's good to know. Now I want to touch on something now just slides to begin was the injury you had. So you had you had a pretty serious injury. This is when you playing anything was gelang in colac. Yep. It was a while back. I'm actually watching the game and I thought you did Janae Yeah, what's going on, buddy? Oh, yeah, it actually turns out it was a lot, probably maybe worse in terms of time off in the sidelines. So maybe john is tell us about that setback and a couple of the injuries you've had along the way then we'll sort of go into a bit more about dealing with that and and the process and that sort of stuff.

Marty Gleeson: 21:58

Yeah, so I think it was 2018 last practice session last quarter for about 10 minutes on the game. I just went out for Martin continent for spoil and just came down and landed and I sort of didn't had no idea what I'd done because I didn't I broke my ankle. I sort of wrote it. So I thought I thought of rolled it hovered off into the change rooms and talking to doctors and physios and they said what are you done? I said hi. I just wrote my inquiry. I didn't know. And then I got gotten the rooms and then I still wasn't too so I just had a couple panadol wasn't too bad the adrenaline I guess everything and then we're supposed to do community campaign around call I Paul Campbell, the days after the game and they're like, oh, now you got to go get an X ray back up. And I was like, Yeah, right. So I drive down myself and then luckily mum and dad at the game and I was gonna say it into them my heart, said a Dad Mom doll. Can you maybe want to drive me back up? Yeah, when I'm a bit sore. And they're like, yeah, okay, no worries. And then remember we got halfway did you learn how to stop get it at Melbourne? How do you be a fuel and I started a bit sore come Agra strapped it was throbbing and swelling. So I took that off. And then I saw how swelling was in my home. I was on a school but still hold hope. Got the X ray app email went out Olympic Park, and then the guy who does the images and all that say if I sent him out, but do you say anything and he's not gonna say and he goes, are can't say but he saw and I said oh, not too bad. And then I had a couple of missed calls from the doc raid and you say you could go straight to hospital you got a really bad broken ankle. And then all of a sudden, it sort of started to hurt got up with I can sort of feel my bones in my ankle moving around and out, which wasn't great feeling. And then yeah, so I ended up breaking. There's a bone in your ankle or your tiles, and I snap that in half and then my sub tiles, which is like heel bone, I pulled that forward about a centimeter dislocated with it. So I remember looking at the X ray at the time, and I couldn't see I'm like, Where's the break and all that that's actually one bone. And that's okay, there you go. So next morning when he got by. So it all happened very quickly. This happened on the Sunday. The Monday was a public holiday, but the surgeon came in and obviously getting surgery at 730 in the morning to get four screws and to put it back together. So it's a bit of a weird injury. dockray has been around for years, and he's never really ever seen it. physios only ever saw it. Oregon twice. And this was from two people that were escaping prison together and they jumped from about a 10 meter high barricade down to concrete and landed. So that's how you sort of do it and right. Yeah, Sylvia bemus how I done it, but yeah, yeah, it happened. So it's pretty serious injury I think sort of older people they might struggle to ever run again. Remember, this is the surgeon sound me before the surgery guys. Yeah, hopefully, it all go well and you'd be ready to go again. But there's a possibility that you might be able to run again.

Joel Kleber: 24:33

Well, so with so with the the initial logic so I remember that diagnosis was eight weeks. Yeah. When that thing goes bad memory about 12 Yeah, eight to 12 or whatever will Yeah, and then obviously kick back and put back and put back and put back. Yeah, I'll have a scar on yours and seeing you because I have long you didn't know how long you had to have actually been on the longest. How'd you actually have the moon glued on for it? So

Marty Gleeson: 24:53

I was in the mood for about four months. I was on crutches for about three months. I had placer for the first couple weeks and I went As I move it for about three months, and then move it myself about a month

Joel Kleber: 25:03

now, did you act exactly like after you did the injury? Like how quickly Did you find it as soon as it was in terms of like, because obviously the diagnosis was eight to 12 weeks or whatever the same, but did you find it how really serious it was

Marty Gleeson: 25:14

probably having sort of really into sort of our I can go back flying and then you sort of sat with the doctors and physios about it? And I sort of say, yeah, obviously, I still don't like to use much who I but talk to the doctors and, and even the surgeon is very serious. Like is it? Yeah, other stuff could happen or whatever. But yeah, I guess just try and block that out. not worry about it. Yeah. So it

Joel Kleber: 25:34

was the first couple of weeks like post the injury.

Marty Gleeson: 25:36

Yeah, that was shot. Only I can imagine. Yeah, I was very lucky. My girlfriend Amelia, she took a couple weeks off work, which was awesome. I would have been, I don't know, I wouldn't be able to get through without her the first couple of weeks. Like I couldn't do anything. I'll literally go to bed and have my ankle raised in the car. So I was taking all the payments if I could. Anytime for my ankle below sort of my heart I get this shocking, throbbing, it's the cost is worse and break my ankle. Yeah. And I thought I'd quickly hold on the couch, stay there all day, foot up and have to go to the bathroom trying to have a shower in between, which is pretty tough and get through boards to share that was very tough. And then yeah, so that was pretty tough the first couple of weeks, and I had to sort of have these blood clotting injection every day as well. Because really why down to more frankly, and clots and I hate hate injection. So that was pretty tough on having to get that so Yeah,

Joel Kleber: 26:29

I know. That's it. Did you have the administer yourself? Or?

Marty Gleeson: 26:32

Amelia girlfriend? She don't? Yeah, so yeah, look away. Yeah, I did look like a failure, but then get used to it. But yeah. So that was the first sort of two weeks. That was that was shocking. Like I remember after like 10 days, I ran out the talking about why is this gonna get better? Like I couldn't I couldn't deal with any more so painful, shocking, that I sort of just turned the corner and it started to go Okay, once we got the cast off.

Joel Kleber: 26:55

Yeah. So so your headspace during that first couple weeks would have been all over the shop? And yeah, as you said you had that support of your of your partner? Yeah. Which is really good. And obviously, you probably got a little bit of Call of Duty and fee from Yeah, everywhere else. But post that couple of weeks period, then what happened then did you have to go in the club. And here's your plan. Here's your rehab plan. What happened from there?

Marty Gleeson: 27:14

Yeah, pretty much sorry, after I got the car. So I was able to sort of I was lucky with my left foot. So I've got automatic car. So I was able to start driving the club, which is good. Get in there and start seeing the physios and pretty much just getting physio every day really light, just they're just massaging you getting the vibe, going and whatnot, and try not to make it too late to get too stiff. So

Joel Kleber: 27:32

the problem was, the blood wasn't getting to that it was hard to get blood to the Yeah,

Marty Gleeson: 27:36

so with the bone that there's down your ankle, it's sort of the blood supply can be limited. And if you leave it, like broken too long without putting back together, it might the blood supply might get there and your bone can die. So that was an issue early on. having to worry about that making sure was good. But I was lucky you had a top surgeon who put it together back you could hardly tell anything's wrong with it now. Yeah, so as the screws in there, so yeah.

Joel Kleber: 27:57

So how did you keep yourself focused during because as a man it's really when you when you actually play if your first Vf was a Muslim, wasn't it? Yeah.

Marty Gleeson: 28:03

So Donna in sort of March and then I played Starcraft and I probably played my first vflw practicematch Marine the start of April. So it's about 30 months. But yeah, I had a few other things in there that stopped me from getting back playing scenes I think tools about round few thing.

Joel Kleber: 28:18

Yeah. So because it would have been other things sort of like you haven't, you know, other other sort of like pains and stuff not too bad. Yeah,

Marty Gleeson: 28:24

because we it was a pretty slow buildup just because I started running in, say, Oregon that might have been as the end of August is started September yet, or I started running after breaking. And then I do that for about six months, very slowly. Because just because it's so stiff, it took me a while to get going. And we're just trying a few different things along the way just to make sure I was running properties and our points start to run if you can't run and using other parts of your ankle for your body, whatever it is, so just making sure that was all good. And then yeah, and then first game was out at craigieburn against I think I've just played a half and I remember that and as soon as like I look back now and I don't know how they let me play I have still like pretty sore Michael going into that game and reeling around a bit but I got through and that gave me a lot of confidence. And then I sort of went from there. Yeah, it was those first five minutes like it would have been pretty Yeah, I sort of just a bit of a headache. So I can't really remember any of it to be honest. So I

Joel Kleber: 29:19

pretty much always hold my breath a little bit just once you see how that first Kiko first touched sort of like, It's alright,

Marty Gleeson: 29:24

yeah, gone a little bit and yeah, and we're sort of playing pretty well at the innovative house. made it easy down there. But yeah, that just gave me a lot of confidence even though I was just the house get going again. Even though I didn't feel great the I just know that I could do it. And then from there sort of the turn another corner.

Joel Kleber: 29:39

Yeah. So how did you keep yourself focused during that whole time? There's obviously a long way to be away from it. You would have been hate not being out there. Yeah. Might people might not but you're pretty argue pretty competitive. Yeah. Yeah. So secretly competitive. Yeah, he would have hated it. But how do you keep yourself focused on that? Because it's a long time. Why? So it's longer than an earache? Right. So how did you just keep yourself focused and determined and on top I have to get back.

Marty Gleeson: 30:00

Yeah, well, I guess I don't few different things. I, during my time I went upstairs the club done a bit of work in the finance team. So I thought that some of the mindset Yeah, about the I didn't do too much out there a few times, maybe four or four times, I was faced with a couple months just to go out there and seeing them a couple hours at a time and see what they do you want us to be out because I like numbers aren't math. So for that someone could be interested in so I've done that. And then I guess, but in rehab, you sort of you do almost especially in season, you do pretty much double double the time everyone else does. So you sorta just got to concentrate on getting your body right, you don't have too much other time to think because a lot of people sort of say your you'd have all the spare tires really stopped. But it's certainly the opposite. So because you're in there, you got to do your your own rehab, it's then you try and be around the team for all their meetings and all that kind of stuff more after that. And they'll do more of that. So I sort of lucky and unlucky for him, but Josh Begley Johnny's near the sort of a similar time to my ankle, so we spend a lot of time to Dan about whatever he has together, and we sort of able to lean on each other, there was days where I might be flat, and he'll be good to get me up or he might be flat, so I can help. So why would it bounce off each other and there was other guys in rehab a lot as well. Joey as well. So we always used to carry on and have a bit of fun as well and got a great rate out coach and physios and all that kind of stuff, which he spent a lot of time with them. So they're great people and which makes a lot easier.

Joel Kleber: 31:16

Well, how are you? How are you how to quiet your mind during those times of negativity and self doubt? I'm sure they would have been a lot. Yeah, they would have been it would have a stage where you might not even thought you could have made it back. Because once you've understood the seriousness of the injury,

Marty Gleeson: 31:27

yeah, there was and I think being sort of still young and pretty naive that you sort of M them thoughts to come in then pretty much straightaway, you sort of pretty young, naive or harsh with your eye, oh, you're all good like that. Nothing like that will happen to me. So I guess it's good being young and pretty naive in that sort of sense. But yeah, they did and I just have conversations with people and and it's okay to feel like that you're gonna feel like that it's what you go through just ask that's completely normal and just have them chats and make sure you talk about it. And then you go from there.

Joel Kleber: 31:55

Did you talk to many people at the club? Like is there a club sport psychologist or anything like that? Yeah, we

Marty Gleeson: 31:59

got we call it the mental skills coach. I got him they called

Joel Kleber: 32:01

the mental skills mental skills like that mental skills coach right.

Marty Gleeson: 32:06

So now he's he's spot on. He's really good. So he's catch up with you. Maybe it just have genuine chataway wouldn't just be about myself would be about other things, as well. And then, of course, you chat with I used to chat with other coaches as well. And you look at other sporting other sporting codes and like a lot of other styles from other sporting codes have gone through significant injuries, and they've come back and, and played and you and even though they've probably had an injury, so you sort of take a bit you look at that and take a bit of inspiration from

Joel Kleber: 32:34

that. Is that something that you proactively sought out? They meant like a demand for skills, correct? Yeah. Now I call them out. So sports, I call it snare call.

Marty Gleeson: 32:42

That's what we call because I guess because he's not really, I don't know. It's also hard to see sort of, he just helps us perform. You don't just go if you're an issue or problem or you go and say how can I get better and perform on gameday concentration or whatever it is. So I guess that's where the kind of terminologies come from.

Joel Kleber: 32:59

But is that something like a practicing on your behalf? Or why they needed to do it or? Well, I

Marty Gleeson: 33:03

knew so we had James Kelly at carbon, I knew he broke his leg pretty badly, early day, so I went and sort of saw him and had a chat. And so he sort of set us to send me like he's probably sent me four or five good tacos over time just on sports people from other codes who have gone through the tough times. Brady was willing so he alien these days? I'm pretty sure I feel I'm pretty sure Tom Brady Yeah. Early days he Danny's knee? Normally when ACL Yeah, and he's come back. And now he's probably the greatest of all time and still going obviously, probably different ballpark Tom Brady myself, but you should say something like that, who's come back and had a great career and from pretty serious injury.

Joel Kleber: 33:41

So the positive reinforcement and just reflecting the similar people that sort of support. Yep, those laws you recommend to somebody who's just the weekend warrior, just a general member of the public not saying you did serious injury like yours, but what would you recommend stuff like maybe watching a documentary or two or Yeah, seek out people who's gotten out who's had a similar injury? Maybe at the club?

Marty Gleeson: 34:00

Yeah, that's always good. Always just you always learn if other people, a lot of people out there got a lot of great experience in what to do what not to do. So just always try and learn and see what you can do. And sometimes, yeah, it might be better to take a bit more time off than try and rush things back. And yeah, it's okay to take a week off and get away escaped fully at Viet local level instead of trying to push it back. And then you might end up falling further behind. So yeah, just listen to your body, listen to your mind and go from there.

Joel Kleber: 34:27

Just out of interest in general, like, obviously, there's a lot of pressure for yourself. What do you do personally, like, obviously, in terms of, if you have like a down day or something like that in the club environment? Is this something where you go talk to mental skills coach, or you talk to your partner, or what do you personally do as a Yeah, meditate? Do you do yoga? Or

Marty Gleeson: 34:42

did too much of that is something I actually do want to try and get into a little bit though. I think early days, like, that's not gonna imagine I can Yeah, pretty standard, but now sort of, like a lot more open to and I've had done a little bit of it last year, which I did enjoy. Have you heard of Jaeger or sort of just mindfulness? Yeah. Yeah. So just doing that. Just

Joel Kleber: 34:59

that An Apple was

Marty Gleeson: 35:01

just an app. Yeah, don't be that the club

Joel Kleber: 35:03

which one we're using karma we're using like

Marty Gleeson: 35:05

something praise one. So I think right yep.

Joel Kleber: 35:07

So there's a headspace that is

Marty Gleeson: 35:09

calm and I've used as well so you can use them and they're great. They could just be literally just listening to your body go through it. And suddenly I started to enjoy that the club, the other mental skills coach has a bit of that as well. So just a bit of grounding, we call it before game, just go in and just calm down and check in and see how you feeling and go from there.

Joel Kleber: 35:26

Yeah, that's quite interesting. So you do that. So you've come around to that now you've actually seen the benefits of it for you?

Marty Gleeson: 35:31

I think so yeah. Cuz on game day, especially I like it, then you can get pretty worked up and which is great to have that adrenaline but you sort of got us at the right time. So it's good to sort of before again, just to check in and say How you feeling? What's going on focusing on what you're doing for the game? and go from there.

Joel Kleber: 35:47

Even in general life, though, if you do that as a regular sort of thing? To help? Sure.

Marty Gleeson: 35:50

Yeah, absolutely. It's not just for 40 years, we live in a hectic, hectic route and hectic city. So just about sometimes taking 510 20 minutes, whatever you got, doesn't matter if it's only five minutes just to check in, say you're feeling what you focus on for the day or whatever it is, you might be your job, what you do. So just focusing on then knowing your focus and go from there. And

Joel Kleber: 36:09

just say I'm interested do do clubs have mental wellness policies? Or do you have like a something in place with like guidelines or something? Obviously, it's a bit more prevalent. Now. In the end, we actually got another guest coming on, who's probably more can talk about this regarding his sort of stuff. But is there anything in place at the club level regarding that if someone's got issues or something like that? Yeah,

Marty Gleeson: 36:28

I think every couple of weeks is every fortnight you sort of do a bit of checking you yourself, it gives goes to a couple of people at the club. And then if you obviously if you're in fives here that can have a chat to you. But if not, yeah, there's there we got multiple people and goes for sweets, about the club about whatever. And obviously, a lot of guys got a lot of good mates at the club as well. So often bounce ideas off each other. Yeah, instead of going to see some of the other people which is fine. And then if sometimes if you which hasn't happened, but if you make if you feel like you may need to be more help, you can obviously go stand at someone else to try and help them as well. Yeah,

Joel Kleber: 37:00

that's good. Now just out of interest. You mentioned mentors before, obviously, if one of them can help you get through the stuff with your previous injuries. So as a club, do you have like a set mentor your assigned or has it generally? Well, obviously, you can go to anyone? Yeah. Do you? Even outside the club, you have a mentor, someone you sort of regularly refer to or

Marty Gleeson: 37:15

you're not really I think Yeah, when you first come to the club, you sort of have your way she's got the older guys, the senior guys who played a lot of footy and they're all great, they're always willing to help with you, whatever it is go through vision extra stuff on the footy field, even just a live chat. So that's something go better free far, but you sort of don't really have anyone skewed specifically, yeah, aligned to you watch a vision from other cloud developers and all that kind of stuff as well. So yeah, I think

Joel Kleber: 37:44

you have anyone but business you said finance before Yeah. What about Is there anything in business or do you seek it? Obviously, because with clubs I don't think people realize obviously have a lot of people like the groups like those all those are the Lord. A lot of COVID is actually for people. It's probably quite interesting. You have all these business successful business people involved in the club. Yep. Do you seek them out? Or how does it Yeah,

Marty Gleeson: 38:06

I probably I think it was 2017 I've done a bit of work with a guy was Fleming who's got his Fleming's nursery somewhere and you actually and he does really yeah, I suppose nurseries and does landscaping a lot as well. So I am

Joel Kleber: 38:17

he would want to be landscaping Yeah, Yeah, I do. I still do enjoy that but probably not there's always a James mine franchise. Yeah, exactly. Right.

Marty Gleeson: 38:24

Yeah. So I had a bit of work experience with him and his team for probably half a year which was great so caught up with him and he's like he's someone that I still keep in contact with now who's a great person and they were so lucky you just got to be willing to go out and have a chat and not be shy and just go and have a chat to those people because they're all great people and they've got a lot of knowledge and experience and they just want to help you so that's that's one area extremely lucky here

Joel Kleber: 38:51

because you get offered you get a lot more opportunities via those channels obviously during you'd like you can just pick basically what if you had interested you said financially involved in finance and maybe approach it to do pretty likely like that? Yeah,

Marty Gleeson: 39:02

we can pretty much just go say our player development manager and say, right, what are you interested in and kind of map the area so then you can go from there and then they'll have a look at who that the club that can sort of get in contact with and he's gonna be willing to go have a chat have a coffee with him, whatever it is. Get to know them and yeah, we're very lucky we done that a few times.

Joel Kleber: 39:19

Before Wes, quite

Marty Gleeson: 39:21

a few other people Yeah. Yep. And that they just lovely people as always willing to have a chat and just want to help out I think you should put yourself out there a bit and

Joel Kleber: 39:27

let them know you're interested. Yeah,

Marty Gleeson: 39:29

exactly. Right. And just be yourself. And yeah, no love that.

Joel Kleber: 39:32

Cool. Now basically just talking about that now move sort of post that actually, was there any sort of particular tools that you've learned or mental mindsets that you reckon you could take post career out into into the workplace, obviously, you're in a profession like you're in intense environment Now, is there anything that you've learned that that you think it's gonna be applicable to your life post funny?

Marty Gleeson: 39:51

Yeah, I think a fair bit I think just always just being doing what you can always hard working. I think, a lot of people these days, we're trying to take shortcuts and do the easy way, but just Do what you got to do. It's pretty simple, pretty easy, but I don't think I think that's something that we actually had a chat to a few people in the construction industry and they like this. They were like, what can we do to get ahead and like, just do your job do well. Don't try and see

Joel Kleber: 40:13

people in the construction industry.

Marty Gleeson: 40:14

Yeah, just a few of us just sat down and had a chat to a few people. And a few people just ask questions. And I sort of said, Yeah, just Just do your job, do it. Well, why? And then don't be afraid to ask questions. seek out help and advice where you can I think a lot of people sometimes might feel a bit shy about that, and I had to do something but just ask questions and you only got to learn and get better.

Joel Kleber: 40:34

And that's also my business to create a culture where they can can feel as though they're needed as it says, I think before riffing something said which is people do feel stupid sometimes and they get ridiculed or they ask the question, especially in some intense corporate environments, definitely be like that so

Marty Gleeson: 40:46

exactly right. So that's that yeah to be can just ask questions and Don't feel shy of asking any question

Joel Kleber: 40:50

so what are you building outside of yourself post 14 you're gonna do a landscaping business are you under financing Are you going to run tall with total holdings illegal

Marty Gleeson: 40:59

Well, not unique at the moment so I'm starting a business which is an economics finance degree so bit over halfway through that change for you Yeah,

Joel Kleber: 41:06

I didn't know you would go down that way but yeah, I'm

Marty Gleeson: 41:08

just doing at the moment cuz I think it's pretty broad and could sort of lead to anywhere so I'm doing that I am enjoying it sound telling I when I was sort of out of school I was pretty happy to be finished school for us for a little bit happy time off and now I'm pretty happy I'm back into studying and enjoying I just got out at the moment I've just a bit transit through RMIT so we got a bit of affiliation with him. So they're awesome. So going there Monday night about 630 for about three hours. Monday night just not not out me treat me lecture and then the City Campus

Joel Kleber: 41:36

it Yes, yes. Yeah. So

Marty Gleeson: 41:37

yeah, it's good campus there. So just go in there get that done. And so I thought my exam colleagues Yeah, I bet I was why so I've got that in Australia. Couple weeks away.

Joel Kleber: 41:45

Yeah. had a nice trip over overseas. Yeah, I was a training camp that was it is a training training camp. It was a cultural training camp. Yeah, that's right. So yeah. But what are you what so basically Yes, they did a great you know exactly what you want to do if that degree or no idea. So

Marty Gleeson: 42:01

I think for myself, I'm just literally I've sort of touched on just trying to meet as many people I came on on Thankfully, there are great people and they will help you post career as well which is great thing so I just tried to make them does that communicate to you? were you when you say post career? Did they let you know that? Or is it something that you know you could if you wanted to go

Joel Kleber: 42:17

down a certain channel you could have that contact already made the network or? Yeah, well,

Marty Gleeson: 42:20

I think the big thing is just about making the most of the time while you're while you're playing footy. Just meeting as many people at y playing so then one day if do need help, whatever industry is Yeah, that'd be more than willing to help and even if it's not in the industry that like a lot of these people are very successful and though they'll know people that can help you

Joel Kleber: 42:38

because people you got a massive network and people that see the people those groups who just want to be involved in health.

Marty Gleeson: 42:43

Exactly everyone out there just great people they're just like helping helping young people have who want to have a go

Joel Kleber: 42:49

Yeah, cool. So we'll see what you do with the economic no economics, economics.

Marty Gleeson: 42:53

I didn't realize it was for economics is not easy, but that's not that's not the model it's just yeah, be tough but it

Joel Kleber: 43:01

is how many subjects is the one one a semester

Marty Gleeson: 43:03

I'm just talking about a semester at the moment so fascinating that your needs time? Yeah,

Joel Kleber: 43:07

what do you like to do in your free time then? Yeah, well

Marty Gleeson: 43:09

obviously to be a union video study for that and then I'll find me golf and then just catch up the boys go and sit at a cafe for a few hours just talk we talk a lot of random stuff that arafat's I try to solve the world's problems or new inventions ideas we got so yeah, new inventions and ideas. Yeah, just just random stuff. I couldn't do anything else. But yeah, what ages?

Joel Kleber: 43:29

Yeah, and yeah, back up to one. Oh,

Marty Gleeson: 43:31

yeah. Try and get Yeah, try and get back there a fair bit. It's obviously pretty tough. This time you like preseason and training? Have a big week and it's pretty tough sometimes to get in the car for three and a half hours. Get home for

Joel Kleber: 43:43

three and a half hours. Yeah,

Marty Gleeson: 43:44

I'll cry. Yeah, but yeah, get home and you're sort of home for 24 hours and then travel back out can be pretty time consuming. And it's pretty pretty tight because then coming Monday, big session and if you're not ready to go and perform and get that out can be pretty tough. So he's pretty tough. You saw me in the offseason, which we just had sort of 10 weeks off got home a fair bit and we have over the Christmas new period but apart from that it can be pretty tough to

Joel Kleber: 44:09

get back there in the milking at all help healthier. Yeah, no doubt Yeah,

Marty Gleeson: 44:12

every time I'm home I'll hit five Yeah, 530 day moving the cows in at night so yeah, yeah, I'm not really I thought to be going I didn't mind if I was pretty lucky to our brothers. They love it. They do most of it. I couple years ago, Jonathan farm had to go away for a week so I was in offseason so I went and looked at their data their for their for four or five nights and done morning and night by myself, which was good Caltech show eight sessions, which is all fancy.

Joel Kleber: 44:41

Now do you have a passion about and no one knows about? Obviously, you've said you don't know what but is this something like the reference? I put in the question this I did send some questions or fours like Homer Simpson wanted to in the Dallas Cowboys. Now. Is there something that you want to ideally do one day was there something Yeah, really nice about all.

Marty Gleeson: 44:55

I think it's pretty. It's pretty stereotypical arc, and it's Sort of mounting losses or even almost a wonderful thing that correcting lots of guy leave over in London for a year. I couldn't Yeah, I think just get out of my own experience how many different lots of go do that? Whenever if I can do that. I don't know if I will be able to but

Joel Kleber: 45:13

yeah, a 30 year 30 under for that two year

Marty Gleeson: 45:16

yeah. So I got lots of go do that. But whether I can or not either London or you're been in New York and New York could be good. Pretty cool. Cities pretty fast paced, pretty different. But yeah, lots of trying to either get for

Joel Kleber: 45:28

you and work in a bar or Yeah, literally, I

Marty Gleeson: 45:30

wouldn't care what I don't work in a bar Popeyes whatever it is, but alive and that wouldn't bother me. Yeah, different. Yeah.

Joel Kleber: 45:35

Cool. All right. Now we're gonna get to a couple rapid fire questions. It's those 10 questions, they pretty easily didn't show these two ones before. So let's run through them real quickly. Obviously your massive sports person says in terms of what you like in terms of NFL and also start to get a couple of questions here. So run through them real quickly. You saw me first response Messi or Ronaldo, Messi. Messi Yeah, why is that? And they left foot out it to me left for the soccer fair enough. Famous social media platform. It's Instagram. Yeah. Why is that just for the just a sport highlights five NBA player

Marty Gleeson: 46:10

This is a tough one supposed to be fun I love boys love him love Paul George as well. Law I'd say Paul GEORGE Yeah.

Joel Kleber: 46:17

Paul George. pG 30

Marty Gleeson: 46:19

I used to I used to be west for grass do loving you probably me saying my report. You're just like you guys have added

Joel Kleber: 46:24

a dribbling clip the other day when he's dribbling around in the circle Westbrook for Houston.

Marty Gleeson: 46:27

Oh, yeah. So that Yeah. And then he ended up a I don't know what happened there. Yeah, they just lost it to me.

Joel Kleber: 46:32

Yeah, I did. pG 13. Okay, yeah, three things on only on a desert island. If you could take three things. Three things.

Marty Gleeson: 46:40

I knew something like this will come up. This question always comes up in refer fine lines. And I never have I never heard when I'd say a boat.

Joel Kleber: 46:46

A boat or that's yeah, that's pretty good. Some extra few. Some extra shoe and a bit of food. I'm very, very, very logical. very logical. What's the food though? Only one food. Pizza. Pizza. Yeah, cold pizza right now. Oh,

Marty Gleeson: 47:00

boy. It's pretty good to have Mach five on it.

Joel Kleber: 47:03

Well, that's one thing you could uninvent uninvent Yeah. I've had a written answer this I'll show you after careful with this one. But one thing you can uninvent Yeah. uninvent that when you could wish you could uninvent

Marty Gleeson: 47:20

question. Shouldn't be tough, but it is an event. Broccoli? No, no broccoli. brussel sprouts or broccoli? Brussel. sprouts.

Joel Kleber: 47:30

sprouts theory. Yeah. What's your favorite NFL team? NFL? Yeah.

Marty Gleeson: 47:36

I don't follow it too much. I like watching Mark Patterson and

Joel Kleber: 47:41

say that Baltimore. The Ravens? Yeah. Lamar Jackson, Mark Jackson. New michael vick.

Marty Gleeson: 47:46

Yeah, so I've watched a fair few of his highlights and you know, good to use in passing and rushing down the most good Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

Joel Kleber: 47:53

The old Lamar Jackson says your favorite player on them would be Lamar Jackson. He's a man with a favorite band. favorite band?

Marty Gleeson: 48:00

Oh, I think I've ever been I go Coldplay? I went saw them probably about Coldplay here in Australia. probably four or five years ago when with all my schoolmates. It was a really fun night I'll say I should buy their national band. Okay, then there's a lot of Alec music he sort of like

Joel Kleber: 48:14

what do you listen to? I listen to everything I've known you too much as a music person so I wanted

Marty Gleeson: 48:19

to actually I'm on muchmusic person but I listened to all this literally everything all of the classics I got even classic playlists that I made on Spotify and then try and listen to a bit of new hip stuff so I think I'm pretty cool

Joel Kleber: 48:31

stuff pretty game. Well,

Marty Gleeson: 48:32

I don't have my headphones in we got to be music playing in the changes right now. I don't know. Cool.

Joel Kleber: 48:38

Whether you've pre game superstition, do you have a favorite pregame one? Not

Marty Gleeson: 48:41

really. So the night before I try and have a pastor and stuff has been a piece apart now I don't have any at all. So I rock up different times for you every week. Not intentionally just how to use and yeah, you do

Joel Kleber: 48:53

I bought one there's one thing I noticed you do a lot in the game. It's not a pre emptive decision is when have you swing the head along fringes always

Marty Gleeson: 48:59

try and get it to be shorter. Yeah, that's why I always get the ice. I always try and get out of it shortly because I didn't want to get out of here cuts every second week. But

Joel Kleber: 49:07

that's true. And well. Your favorite player at the club?

Marty Gleeson: 49:09

favorite player club is a tough a tough race. Yeah, and now they're only favorite old favorites. So now I can't be here.

Joel Kleber: 49:15

There was a couple of the the old ones you look up to that. Who's a couple of ones you Well, I'm getting old now. So yeah, for 25

Marty Gleeson: 49:23

I ended up talking about the $40 at the club now so $14 Yeah, I mean yeah. But now always since I got the I was even in the backline so hoopseen houses to people always looked up to and they've helped me out enormously of my career. So it's

Joel Kleber: 49:36

pretty quick seven years you know, I remember yesterday when literally put an extra 20 kilos and Emily have always got dropped about 67

Marty Gleeson: 49:44

about a 45 now so

Joel Kleber: 49:45

I can it's a few few few heavy weights now stronger than you are when you get there. What's the best advice you've ever been given? best bit of advice.

Marty Gleeson: 49:55

So this is another question I always have. And I say I just base out You don't worry about trying to impress anyone else to spare you people like people will like you for who you are

Joel Kleber: 50:07

now. I'll tell you some that that's the end of it so thanks for doing this really much appreciate it. And obviously follow Martin on his social handles the camera was a Marty underscore 35 someone else that maybe is my anticoagulation? Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure he punches anyone on Twitter. Don't don't tweet at him. He's not going to respond. Don't abuse him as well. But Instagram, obviously you follow Marty? I know you do post some stuff on Instagram occasionally. Yeah. I was actually gonna say do you know I call you Martin at the start the interview. I always refer you as Martin. I never. I never I never told him it. Was mama with cause Martin probably close. But you're so you. Yeah. Your mom's Dad? Yeah. granddad. His name was Martin. Yep. my middle name is actually mark. It is it is. I didn't even know that. So I like hearing my own. So that's why I say I always call your mom I don't call you Marty. Marty. I say Nancy's mom. The reason why the I'm a real stickler for that because you're because your was your granddad's name on the other side was a Martin as well

Marty Gleeson: 50:59

known as john lewis. JOHN. So dad's dad's john, and then mom's was your mom and mom's on dad. So either, so dad's dad was JJ. So john, Joseph. Dad's john, James and Jonathan Jonathan Joseph says, there's a lot of jazz and I even goes back a lot. A lot more. Yeah, there was so much JJ. So it was john for a while but then yeah, all Monet jazz for I don't know. Yeah. But yeah, they're all JJ so

Joel Kleber: 51:24

there you go. Now thanks for doing this man. Really appreciate it. guest on the brother called the authentic combos podcast now we've we might change that name we don't know but that's what we're running for the staff so we'll go with that but I really appreciate it because last year of thing as well you're in pre season obviously now so I'm sure can also the hotter months you'll be knackered absolutely knackered no doubt. Yeah, I'll do that a bit better now. Hopefully from Yeah, I can use it a little bit. Yeah, so good luck with everything. Yeah, I really do appreciate you doing this nanorobotics matches. Thanks, me.